<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.comments</id><updated>2009-11-07T02:21:32.216-05:00</updated><title type='text'>MathNotations</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/full'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/comments/full'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/comments/full?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2321</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-5737373614422862410</id><published>2009-11-07T02:21:32.216-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-07T02:21:32.216-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Virtual Studio has all the required live media pro...</title><content type='html'>Virtual Studio has all the required live media processing facilities to ensure successful completion of projects on time and within budgets. 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Examinations measure proficiency and...</title><content type='html'>I understand. Examinations measure proficiency and understanding.  I simply think that examination questions should be related to mathematical history and research.   There are short steps from &amp;quot;What squares are sums of two squares?&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;What numbers are sums of two squares?&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;What numbers are sums of three squares?&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;What numbers are sums of four squares?&amp;quot; to Waring&amp;#39;s problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might want to discuss with students the distinction between G(n) and g(n) in Waring&amp;#39;s problem; similarly, discuss Vinogradov&amp;#39;s result on sums of three primes.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/1578786681501268940/comments/default/5475288059186005866'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/1578786681501268940/comments/default/5475288059186005866'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/11/open-ended-contest-problem-and.html?showComment=1257437484776#c5475288059186005866' title=''/><author><name>Eric Jablow</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16327238795785012303</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/11/open-ended-contest-problem-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-1578786681501268940' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/1578786681501268940' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-4818901618753086225</id><published>2009-11-05T08:26:21.157-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-05T08:26:21.157-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Eric--
Nice to be talking about math again, number...</title><content type='html'>Eric--&lt;br /&gt;Nice to be talking about math again, number theory in particular.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve always believed that an understanding of the proof that odd primes are uniquely representable as a sum of squares iff they are of the form 4n+1 is a rite of passage for young mathematicians. Now I&amp;#39;m really curious about Zagier&amp;#39;s one-sentence proof of this theorem! Must be a very complex sentence!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back to the contest...&lt;br /&gt;I specifically chose a fairly straightforward derivation for the test to give all students a chance to at least engage the question. The fact that so many struggled confirms my belief that we should spend a more time early on getting our students to formulate explanations of their reasoning and putting pencil to paper. Writing one&amp;#39;s ideas in a coherent manner takes years of practice, never mind the deeper understanding of big mathematical ideas.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/1578786681501268940/comments/default/4818901618753086225'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/1578786681501268940/comments/default/4818901618753086225'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/11/open-ended-contest-problem-and.html?showComment=1257427581157#c4818901618753086225' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/11/open-ended-contest-problem-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-1578786681501268940' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/1578786681501268940' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-5203727533481404589</id><published>2009-11-04T21:57:57.390-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-04T21:57:57.390-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Let's go further with this.  Fermat made an observ...</title><content type='html'>Let&amp;#39;s go further with this.  Fermat made an observation about positive integers that are the sums of two squares.  The proofs are a bit complicated; you can look them up on Wikipedia or Mathworld.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What numbers are sums of two squares (or 1 square--0 counts).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;0 = 0²&lt;br /&gt;1 = 1²&lt;br /&gt;2 = 1² + 1²&lt;br /&gt;3: no&lt;br /&gt;4 = 2²&lt;br /&gt;5 = 1² + 2²&lt;br /&gt;6: no&lt;br /&gt;7: no&lt;br /&gt;8 = 2² + 2²&lt;br /&gt;9 = 3²&lt;br /&gt;10 = 1² + 3²&lt;br /&gt;11: no&lt;br /&gt;12: no&lt;br /&gt;13 = 2² + 3²&lt;br /&gt;16 = 4²&lt;br /&gt;17 = 1² + 4²&lt;br /&gt;18 = 3² + 3²&lt;br /&gt;19: no&lt;br /&gt;20 = 2² + 4²&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, look at the primes in the list.  2, 5, 13, and 17 are sums, while 3, 7, 11, and 19 are not.  Do your students notice a distinction?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now look at the composites.  10 is in the list; its factors 2 and 5 are in also.  In fact, if m and n are such sums then their product is.  Why?  It helps to be familiar with complex numbers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If m = a² + b², then m = (a+bi) (a-bi).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If n = c² + d², then n = (c+di) (c-di).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;mn = (a+bi) (a-bi) (c+di) (c-di)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    = (a+bi) (c+di) (a-bi) (c-di)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If (a+bi)(c+di) = (e+fi), then (a-bi)(c-di) = (e-fi), and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;mn = (e+fi) (e-fi) = e² + f².&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, we can guess that 2, and odd primes of the form 4n + 1 appear in the list; if that&amp;#39;s true then all their products do.  Can 7 or 11 appear as a factor of a number in the list?  Of course.  7² = 49 appears.  And that leads to Fermat&amp;#39;s observation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A positive integer is the sum of two squares if every  prime factor with the form 4k+3 appears to an even power.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/1578786681501268940/comments/default/5203727533481404589'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/1578786681501268940/comments/default/5203727533481404589'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/11/open-ended-contest-problem-and.html?showComment=1257389877390#c5203727533481404589' title=''/><author><name>Eric Jablow</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16327238795785012303</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/11/open-ended-contest-problem-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-1578786681501268940' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/1578786681501268940' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7684850818008936558</id><published>2009-11-04T10:01:10.315-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-04T10:01:10.315-05:00</updated><title type='text'>школьницы ебутся http://free-3x.com/  порно малоле...</title><content type='html'>школьницы ебутся http://free-3x.com/  порно малолетки молодые молоденькие &lt;a href="http://free-3x.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;free-3x.com/&lt;/a&gt; порно молодых мальчиков [url=http://free-3x.com/]free-3x.com[/url]</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/2413975568927012657/comments/default/7684850818008936558'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/2413975568927012657/comments/default/7684850818008936558'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/06/please-help-dorothy-go-home-probability.html?showComment=1257346870315#c7684850818008936558' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/06/please-help-dorothy-go-home-probability.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-2413975568927012657' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/2413975568927012657' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-1616343453588772845</id><published>2009-11-02T19:22:04.580-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-02T19:22:04.580-05:00</updated><title type='text'>it's a really nice blog thanks for add my comment....</title><content type='html'>it&amp;#39;s a really nice blog thanks for add my comment...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Welcome to Thebettingonline. 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Since I don&amp;#39;t think there are really any high school level skills that enter into this problem, and the hard part (IMO) is making the organized list of matched pairs, I think experience will win out over school level here.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/3654085230317000363/comments/default/5416461685148285672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/3654085230317000363/comments/default/5416461685148285672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-sample-contest-problem-counting.html?showComment=1254769496380#c5416461685148285672' title=''/><author><name>mathmom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05869925405540832241</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-sample-contest-problem-counting.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-3654085230317000363' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/3654085230317000363' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-4281122722769868672</id><published>2009-10-05T13:04:54.749-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T13:04:54.749-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It's always comforting when we agree on an answer!...</title><content type='html'>It&amp;#39;s always comforting when we agree on an answer! I felt pretty sure of the result but I believe in hedging my bets, particularly since i was doing this mentally around 6:30 AM!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would be interesting to &amp;quot;kid-watch&amp;quot; on this one, although the younger set may need clarification or one example. Do you think high schoolers&amp;#39; approaches would be more sophisticated than middle schoolers or about the same?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I started by considering all pairs in which &amp;quot;1&amp;quot; is the least digit.  &amp;quot;1&amp;quot; could not be paired with any primes so that left &amp;quot;14&amp;quot; (no good), &amp;quot;16&amp;quot; (that paired with &amp;quot;23&amp;quot;), &amp;quot;18&amp;quot; (paired with &amp;quot;24&amp;quot;) and &amp;quot;19&amp;quot; (no good).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each pairing like &amp;quot;16&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;23&amp;quot; leads to 2x2x2 = 8 outcomes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then I considered pairs in which &amp;quot;2&amp;quot; is the least possible digit, i.e., no &amp;quot;1&amp;#39;s.&amp;quot; This produced &amp;quot;23&amp;quot; (already covered above), &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; (already covered), &amp;quot;26&amp;quot; (paired with &amp;quot;34&amp;quot;) and &amp;quot;29&amp;quot; (pair with &amp;quot;36&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This leads to 2 more sets of eight results. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ll stop the process here to allow students to check these and complete them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since we think in similar ways, everything you described in your comment applies to me as well!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/3654085230317000363/comments/default/4281122722769868672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/3654085230317000363/comments/default/4281122722769868672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-sample-contest-problem-counting.html?showComment=1254762294749#c4281122722769868672' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-sample-contest-problem-counting.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-3654085230317000363' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/3654085230317000363' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-5776065204556029564</id><published>2009-10-05T09:35:00.500-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T09:35:00.500-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I came up with 40 also.  I ended up just enumerati...</title><content type='html'>I came up with 40 also.  I ended up just enumerating a list of the pairs of digits whose product equals the product of another pair of digits.  I didn&amp;#39;t feel like I had a great way of thinking about that (though some rough ideas about primes and squares and cubes emerged) so it felt kinda brute-force-ish to me.  Of course the list was reasonably short in the end, so that was ok.  But like you, I wasn&amp;#39;t terribly confident of my answer in the end.  (At least I suspect you weren&amp;#39;t since you invited folks to disagree.)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/3654085230317000363/comments/default/5776065204556029564'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/3654085230317000363/comments/default/5776065204556029564'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-sample-contest-problem-counting.html?showComment=1254749700500#c5776065204556029564' title=''/><author><name>mathmom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05869925405540832241</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-sample-contest-problem-counting.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-3654085230317000363' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/3654085230317000363' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-1484451026389711943</id><published>2009-10-03T06:45:31.040-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-03T06:45:31.040-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Mathmom--
Let me know if you try it with your sons...</title><content type='html'>Mathmom--&lt;br /&gt;Let me know if you try it with your sons or other middle schoolers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that some high schoolers will struggle with the &amp;quot;tricky bits&amp;quot; or, as I would like to say, &amp;quot;the devil is in the details.&amp;quot; There is a lot to process here. The student taking physics will definitely be more comfortable with the &amp;quot;rate&amp;quot; approach since they do many motion problems and the units issue should be trivial for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Going back to your proportion method, I believe that the units used, &amp;quot;miles over seconds&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;mi/sec&amp;quot; is a powerful way to introduce &lt;b&gt;rate&lt;/b&gt;. I believe math teachers need to stress the importance of units as much as science teachers do. Formulas such as R = D/T emerge naturally from such discussions. Once the student buys into (mi/hr) x hr = mi, for example, formulas like D = RT express themselves!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mathematical basis for dimensional analysis however is noot always fully explained in science classes. If RATE is constant, then the middle schooler needs to see that D = RT express the idea that Distance is directly proportional to Time while Rate is the constant of proportionality. The 1st year algebra student needs to make the connection that D = RT is just a special case of y = mx, a direct variation function!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me extend this to &amp;quot;varies directly as the square of&amp;quot;. Science and math students later on will learn that y = ax^2 expresses this relationship and they will graph it and solve applied applied problems. However, how many students look at a formula like A = πr^2 and realize that this is a special case of direct square variation where π is the constant of proportionality! Sometimes we have to model &amp;quot;making connections&amp;quot;...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/1484451026389711943'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/1484451026389711943'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254566731040#c1484451026389711943' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-2607497112452342280</id><published>2009-10-02T23:32:49.057-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-02T23:32:49.057-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My older middle schoolers (~7th - 8th grade level,...</title><content type='html'>My older middle schoolers (~7th - 8th grade level, either in a second year of pre-algebra, or starting Algebra 1) are pretty good about recognizing ratio problems.  They also know the D=RT relationship.  But I&amp;#39;m guessing that there are enough &amp;quot;tricky bits&amp;quot; (figuring out how far each train has to travel, which is stated in an indirect way, translating between hours and seconds) that I&amp;#39;d only give them a 50% chance of solving this one correctly on the first try, without any hand-holding.  Maybe I&amp;#39;ll try it out with them sometime -- if I get to it, I&amp;#39;ll let you know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wouldn&amp;#39;t give this to my younger middle schoolers (5th-6th grade level, just starting pre-algebra) yet.  Sometimes I do a lesson on distance/rate/time problems and if I do, I&amp;#39;ll throw this one in to see what happens.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/2607497112452342280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/2607497112452342280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254540769057#c2607497112452342280' title=''/><author><name>mathmom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05869925405540832241</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-5519389075250001981</id><published>2009-10-02T10:50:40.357-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-02T10:50:40.357-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Three of clubs--
Thank you for your insightful and...</title><content type='html'>Three of clubs--&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your insightful and supportive comments. Considering that I wrote this problem for average middle schoolers and that algebra and formulas are not required, it&amp;#39;s sad to think that some high schoolers would give up on this. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mathmom--&lt;br /&gt;I absolutely agree that this this should not be considered a difficult problem, never mind a contest question! Your proportion model  is exceptionally important for middle schoolers. Do you believe that most middle schoolers would be able to solve it this way or solve it at all?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/5519389075250001981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/5519389075250001981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254495040357#c5519389075250001981' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-2319361496297610346</id><published>2009-10-01T21:19:18.121-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-01T21:19:18.121-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Is this a "contest problem"?  No, IMO, this is a s...</title><content type='html'>Is this a &amp;quot;contest problem&amp;quot;?  No, IMO, this is a straightforward problem.  I think our pre-algebra kids who have worked with ratios and can solve a simple equation with cross-multiplying could solve this problem, though I think the conversion from hours to seconds would mess up a lot of them.  I would hope they would do something like:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;100 miles          9/20 mile&lt;br /&gt;---------      =      ----------&lt;br /&gt;3600 seconds      x seconds&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And solve for x.  This doesn&amp;#39;t require remembering that D=RT or any other version of the formula, and I always prefer methods that don&amp;#39;t require kids to remember a formula</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/2319361496297610346'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/2319361496297610346'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254446358121#c2319361496297610346' title=''/><author><name>mathmom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05869925405540832241</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-6444788563941056638</id><published>2009-10-01T08:35:26.853-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-01T08:35:26.853-04:00</updated><title type='text'>caught my mistake...thanks

I hadn't really focuse...</title><content type='html'>caught my mistake...thanks&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hadn&amp;#39;t really focused on the question of appropriateness, being too caught up in trying to teach each student at his level and making sure there was something constructive for each member of the class to be doing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is, though, the most seminal question. You&amp;#39;ve certainly thought through more of the &amp;quot;should and ought&amp;quot; than I have. Some of your problem depends on formal teaching, but the part I find most interesting is informal understanding ... the stuff which we expect people to get, except, they don&amp;#39;t.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At what age do we expect people to be able to know that you need to add the length of the tunnel to the length of the train? Or, better still, reverse their thinking, and have them going in the same direction?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When confronted with a class what should you expect and what should you assume? When I first started teaching high school math, I assumed my students knew the material from the previous term. That expectation was despite finding college juniors and seniors in advanced math classes still trying to turn (x+1)^2 into x^2+1. My expectations are running kind of low right now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With regard to your problem, incidentally, I&amp;#39;m taking a year off from teaching, or I would field test it for you. My own guess though, fewer high school seniors could solve it than identify the Bill of Rights. So, appropriate? or, desirable?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/6444788563941056638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/6444788563941056638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254400526853#c6444788563941056638' title=''/><author><name>three of clubs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15046697935694605317</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-805259272596021002</id><published>2009-09-30T15:07:52.810-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-30T15:07:52.810-04:00</updated><title type='text'>three...
I calculated A's time to be 25.6 seconds,...</title><content type='html'>three...&lt;br /&gt;I calculated A&amp;#39;s time to be 25.6 seconds, not 19.2. Did you remember to divide A&amp;#39;s distance by 75 mi/hr rather than 100 mi/hr?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;m also interested in your thoughts about the appropriateness of this not very difficult problem for 6th or 7th graders(or 4th &amp;amp; 5th in Singapore!!)??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tried to write an &amp;quot;RT = D&amp;quot; problem which did not require algebraic methods other than manipulating the basic formula to find time.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/805259272596021002'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/805259272596021002'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254337672810#c805259272596021002' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-4113143950710240045</id><published>2009-09-30T12:44:02.788-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-30T12:44:02.788-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Am I wrong in calculating that train B has to trav...</title><content type='html'>Am I wrong in calculating that train B has to travel 9/20 of a mile which it does in 9/2000 of an hour or 16.2 seconds?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Train A travels 8/15 of a mile in 19.2 seconds. So isn&amp;#39;t the difference just 3 seconds?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/4113143950710240045'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/7604939841762369711/comments/default/4113143950710240045'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html?showComment=1254329042788#c4113143950710240045' title=''/><author><name>three of clubs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15046697935694605317</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/two-tains-and-tunnel-is-there-room-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7604939841762369711' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/7604939841762369711' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-846502189197259341</id><published>2009-09-30T00:28:26.610-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-30T00:28:26.610-04:00</updated><title type='text'>You got it, Emily!</title><content type='html'>You got it, Emily!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/846502189197259341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/846502189197259341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html?showComment=1254284906610#c846502189197259341' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-9057856079168937854' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/9057856079168937854' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-5044125245008246071</id><published>2009-09-29T23:34:21.946-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-29T23:34:21.946-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oops!
For the challenge 1, I thought it was 10^100...</title><content type='html'>Oops!&lt;br /&gt;For the challenge 1, I thought it was 10^1000 - 1...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, so I think the correct answer to challenge 1 is, &lt;br /&gt;3000 9&amp;#39;s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/5044125245008246071'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/5044125245008246071'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html?showComment=1254281661946#c5044125245008246071' title=''/><author><name>Emily</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-9057856079168937854' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/9057856079168937854' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-3839625406691057846</id><published>2009-09-29T05:49:43.334-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-29T05:49:43.334-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Emily,
I agree with your 2nd and 3rd answers but c...</title><content type='html'>Emily,&lt;br /&gt;I agree with your 2nd and 3rd answers but consider the following pattern:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1000^1 -1 = 999  (three 9&amp;#39;s)&lt;br /&gt;1000^2 - 1 = 999999  (six 9&amp;#39;s)&lt;br /&gt;etc....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many other ways to look at #1 using laws of exponents but the best strategy for these types is usually to &amp;quot;Make the problem simpler and look for a pattern!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keep commenting!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/3839625406691057846'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/3839625406691057846'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html?showComment=1254217783334#c3839625406691057846' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-9057856079168937854' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/9057856079168937854' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-5015597963306904287</id><published>2009-09-28T23:47:04.150-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-28T23:47:04.150-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Following are my answers to the questions.

Challe...</title><content type='html'>Following are my answers to the questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Challenge 1: 1000 digits &lt;br /&gt;Challenge 2: 15&lt;br /&gt;challenge 3: one-third mile</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/5015597963306904287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/9057856079168937854/comments/default/5015597963306904287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html?showComment=1254196024150#c5015597963306904287' title=''/><author><name>Emily W</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-challengessat-practice-core.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-9057856079168937854' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/9057856079168937854' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-7842046550454137104</id><published>2009-09-24T23:35:47.731-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T23:35:47.731-04:00</updated><title type='text'>About problem 2:

You should also remind your stud...</title><content type='html'>About problem 2:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You should also remind your students of a famous formula in which s=(a + b + c)/2 appears.  Why would that formula tend to give evidence for the solution of problem 2?  You should also ask your students how practical that formula is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a point of style, I always try to use capital letters only for the vertices of triangles and for their angles. I reserve small letters for their sides.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/2388337889636432779/comments/default/7842046550454137104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/2388337889636432779/comments/default/7842046550454137104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/practice-psatsat-quiz-with-strategies.html?showComment=1253849747731#c7842046550454137104' title=''/><author><name>Eric Jablow</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16327238795785012303</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/practice-psatsat-quiz-with-strategies.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-2388337889636432779' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/2388337889636432779' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-8239000834995222837</id><published>2009-09-24T15:39:58.375-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T15:39:58.375-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Jmoser--
I admire your attempt to show them that a...</title><content type='html'>Jmoser--&lt;br /&gt;I admire your attempt to show them that all three forms are equivalent. I&amp;#39;ve done the same with some success but we always returned to the pie chart or some other visual model.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/8482281364575467909/comments/default/8239000834995222837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/8482281364575467909/comments/default/8239000834995222837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/demystifying-harder-per-cent-word.html?showComment=1253821198375#c8239000834995222837' title=''/><author><name>Dave Marain</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13321770881353644307</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04563055233167789439'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mathnotations.blogspot.com/2009/09/demystifying-harder-per-cent-word.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8231784566931768362.post-8482281364575467909' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8231784566931768362/posts/default/8482281364575467909' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>